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		<title>Thoughts on Greenville from a Presbyterian Pastor</title>
		<link>http://www.desertfather.com/2008/05/20/thoughts-on-greenville-from-a-presbyterian-pastor/</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 13:04:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Last Thursday and Friday, a then acquaintance-in-the-Gospel, now brother-in-the-Gospel came to visit our great city. Gordon Duncan is pastor of Sovereign King Church in Garner, NC (http://www.sovereignkingpca.net). I loved having coffee with him on Thursday night. We talked about everything, from family to churches, to paedobaptism (he convinced me &#8211; not easy to do), to [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Last Thursday and Friday, a then acquaintance-in-the-Gospel, now brother-in-the-Gospel came to visit our great city. Gordon Duncan is pastor of Sovereign King Church in Garner, NC (<a href="http://www.sovereignkingpca.net/">http://www.sovereignkingpca.net</a>). I loved having coffee with him on Thursday night. We talked about everything, from family to churches, to paedobaptism (he convinced me &#8211; not easy to do), to books (I&#8217;ve gotten tons of recommendations from him), to music and everything between. He&#8217;s wiser than I (doesn&#8217;t take much), and it was really refreshing to have someone that I agree with theologically to pour into my life. We did lunch at Dr. Unk&#8217;s together, and he loved the space, just as I do. God has truly been gracious with us there. I look forward to the next time we see one another, in early June at the next a29 conference. I plan on going to Garner and hanging out with him, and then we&#8217;re headed to the luncheon together. Should be a blast.</p>
<p>Check out Gordon Duncan&#8217;s thoughts on Greenville here at his blog: <a href="http://www.xanga.com/gordzilla7/657796189/greenville-and-dr-unks.html">Greenville and Dr. Unk&#8217;s</a></p>
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		<title>Ask Neutral Questions</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Nov 2007 18:40:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Derek</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[How many times, when we discussing a new proposal or idea and want someone&#8217;s opinion of it, do we ask a biased question? We slant the question to make our opinion of the matter seem more logical or obvious. Besides being dishonest, it&#8217;s also not how Jesus led. Jesus would ask point blank questions, presenting [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How many times, when we discussing a new proposal or idea and want someone&#8217;s opinion of it, do we ask a biased question? We slant the question to make our opinion of the matter seem more logical or obvious. <strong>Besides being dishonest, it&#8217;s also not how Jesus led.</strong> Jesus would ask point blank questions, presenting both sides equally. In the story of the alabaster jar of perfume (Luke 7), Jesus tells a story of two men, who both are in debt, and both debts are paid off. Jesus plainly presents the facts, and then asks a blatant question, with no bias to the answer Jesus is looking for: <em><span id="niv25238" class="verse">Neither of them had the money to pay him back, so he canceled the debts of both. Now which of them will love him more? </span></em></p>
<p><strong>The next time you&#8217;re discussing an idea or proposal and you truly want the opinion of someone of the idea, and not just &#8217;supporters&#8217;, ask neutral, honest questions.</strong></p>
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		<title>Keeping Our Words Afloat</title>
		<link>http://www.desertfather.com/2007/07/15/keeping-our-words-afloat/</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jul 2007 01:34:29 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Derek</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#8217;ve been reading in 1 Samuel lately, and today was a devotion in chapter 3. This verse came out in my reading:
And Samuel grew, and the Lord was with him and let none of his words fall to the ground.
This is spectacular. How often do our words and ideas hit brick walls, and fizzle out? [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been reading in 1 Samuel lately, and today was a devotion in chapter 3. This verse came out in my reading:</p>
<blockquote><p><em><span id="esv7296" class="verse">And Samuel grew, and the Lord was with him and let none of his words fall to the ground.</span></em></p></blockquote>
<p>This is spectacular. How often do our words and ideas hit brick walls, and fizzle out? No one hears them, and if they do, they don&#8217;t listen [<strong>definitely a difference</strong>].  To me as a preacher, this is more of a miracle than the parting of the Red Sea or a talking donkey. <strong>For someone&#8217;s words to always be heard, understood, and applied is nothing short of miraculous. </strong></p>
<p><strong><em>Lord, let my words never hit the ground.</em></strong></p>
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		<title>My New Motto</title>
		<link>http://www.desertfather.com/2007/07/11/my-new-motto/</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jul 2007 23:20:58 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Derek</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[&#8220;If your life&#8217;s work can be completed in your lifetime, you&#8217;re thinking too small.&#8221;
-Wes Jackson, found on a Chipotle Mexican Grill cup
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;If your life&#8217;s work can be completed in your lifetime, you&#8217;re thinking too small.&#8221;</p>
<p>-Wes Jackson, found on a Chipotle Mexican Grill cup</p>
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		<title>Google and Church Planting: The 20% Rule</title>
		<link>http://www.desertfather.com/2007/06/10/google-and-church-planting-the-20-rule/</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jun 2007 02:45:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A tidbit on leadership culture.
I&#8217;m currently reading an utterly fascinating book about the startup of the largest search engine on the &#8216;net: Google. It&#8217;s written by David Vise and Mark Malseed, aptly titled The Google Story, and has some great tidbits for church planters. One I&#8217;ve gleaned?
 But Google had something else special about it [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A tidbit on leadership culture.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m currently reading an utterly fascinating book about the startup of the largest search engine on the &#8216;net: Google. It&#8217;s written by David Vise and Mark Malseed, aptly titled <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Google-Story-Hottest-Business-Technology/dp/0553383663/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/104-3409619-6327924?ie=UTF8&amp;s=books&amp;qid=1181529928&amp;sr=8-1" target="_blank"><u>The Google Story</u></a>, and has some great tidbits for church planters. One I&#8217;ve gleaned?</p>
<blockquote><p> <em>But Google had something else special about it that Bharat (inventor of Google News) relished: a rule that software engineers spend at least 20 percent of their time, or one day a week, working on whatever projects interested them. The 20 percent rule was a way of encouraging innovation, and both Brin and Page (founders of Google) saw this as essential to establishing and maintaining the right culture and creating a place where bright technologists would want to work and be motivated to come up with breakthrough ideas&#8230;.at Google, the 20 percent approach sent the opposite message- spend one day a week on something <u>you</u>, not your boss, are passionate about, and don&#8217;t worry about such pedestrian matters as whether the idea could be a moneymaker or something that could be turned into a successful product.</em></p></blockquote>
<p>What if we, as leaders of our staffs, took this approach? We came to our staff and said: <strong>one day a week is yours.</strong> Use it for whatever you want to do related to the church. <strong>Don&#8217;t go run errands or anything; but be ministerially productive creatively and redemptively.</strong>  I guarantee a few things would happen: our worship leaders would write more original songs. Our discipleship pastors would write great books on small groups. Ministry ideas would overflow come staff meeting time. &#8220;<em>I&#8217;ve been working on this, what do you think?&#8221; </em>Innovation is key, even in the church, and Google&#8217;s 20% rule is a great way to foster it.</p>
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		<title>Leadership Tips From David</title>
		<link>http://www.desertfather.com/2007/05/16/leadership-tips-from-david/</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2007 20:29:27 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Derek</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Jeff Kapusta had a great, yet short, post on leadership tips drawn from David. Most of these I&#8217;d drawn out, but being reminded of them was wonderful and on time. Here&#8217;s the link: Leadership Thoughts From David
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeff Kapusta had a great, yet short, post on leadership tips drawn from David. Most of these I&#8217;d drawn out, but being reminded of them was wonderful and on time. Here&#8217;s the link: <a href="http://www.jeffkapusta.com/2007/05/15/leadership-thoughts-from-david/" target="_blank">Leadership Thoughts From David</a></p>
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		<title>Mark, Bill, and You</title>
		<link>http://www.desertfather.com/2007/05/01/mark-bill-and-you/</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 01 May 2007 21:22:56 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Derek</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[By now, most people who read this blog have heard of the latest Driscoll scandal: the &#8216;uber-masculine&#8217; church planting video. And most people have heard of the response issued immediately by Bill Hybels (who I&#8217;ve regained some respect for   ). But my question is this: what are you hearing from the Spirit in [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By now, most people who read this blog have heard of the latest Driscoll scandal: the &#8216;uber-masculine&#8217; church planting video. And most people have heard of the response issued immediately by Bill Hybels (who I&#8217;ve regained some respect for <img src='http://desertfather.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  ). But my question is this: <strong>what are you hearing from the Spirit in response to this? </strong>What are you taking away from the dispute? <strong>Or&#8230;are you simply making this the Anna Nicole Smith-capade of the church world?</strong> Are we sensationalizing the entire dilemma, and not taking anything away from it? <strong>Are we the same as the world, but with different subject matter? </strong>Here&#8217;s some lessons that I&#8217;ve learned over the past few days:</p>
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<li>There will always be minor disputes in the church over ecclesiology and theology. These are secondary. What&#8217;s primary is displaying Christ for the world to see. The minor disputes are anti-mission and anti-Gospel, so they should be set aside. <strong>I am guilty of this, and for this I repent.</strong></li>
<li>People are different in some ways but united in this: we are all sinners. We place ourselves above others because we think we know the way church should be &#8216;done&#8217; and the way that the Gospel should be taught. <strong>We elevate ourselves above others because we have the truth</strong>, <strong>but when all is said and done, we are missing the Truth. I am guilty of this, and for this I repent.</strong></li>
<li>Blogs are evil. At a recent gathering of bloggers, I made a comment that if what we are blogging is not redemptive, then we are blogging contrary to the Gospel. God has tested all bloggers during the video scandal, and some have been redemptive, some have not. I have fallen into the very sin that I have warned others about. <strong>I am guilty of this, and for this I repent.</strong></li>
<li>Gossip is one of the largest problems in the church, and blogs can be used to increase its proliferance. We all gossip, it seems, and usually about the church itself. What&#8217;s wrong with this church, what this pastor did yesterday, how this leader reacted during this drama, etc. <strong>I am guilty of this, and for this I repent.</strong></li>
<li><strong>But most of all we have neglected the true Church Planter in all of this.</strong> There is only one way to plant a church. It doesn&#8217;t require men <em>or</em> women in leadership. It doesn&#8217;t require cool bands and nice marketing. It doesn&#8217;t require management software or community events. <strong>It requires lifting the Church Planter up so that He may draw all men to Himself.</strong> When we focus on the secondary things, we neglect the Primary Person. <strong>I am guilty of this, and for this I repent.</strong></li>
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<p>Any comments? Any additional lessons you&#8217;ve learned? Any things that require repentance on your behalf? <strong>Finally, let&#8217;s keep one another accountable in this. Send an email, though. Don&#8217;t comment that they should repent, otherwise it&#8217;s fueling the fire.</strong></p>
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		<title>Get It Here First</title>
		<link>http://www.desertfather.com/2007/01/08/get-it-here-first/</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jan 2007 04:38:14 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Derek</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I just sent off a summary of the Church Planting Wisdoms to Todd Wilson of Passion4Planting. He&#8217;s going to post it on his website, and of course you guys will get the link ASAP. He&#8217;s also in charge of the National New Church Conference in Orlando this year. Pretty great guy, if you ask me. [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>I just sent off a summary of the Church Planting Wisdoms to Todd Wilson of Passion4Planting.</strong> He&#8217;s going to post it on his website, and of course you guys will get the link ASAP. He&#8217;s also in charge of the National New Church Conference in Orlando this year. Pretty great guy, if you ask me. <strong>He&#8217;s working his tail off to see that church plants succeed and that church planters have the resources they need.</strong> Anyway, if you want to download a copy of the Church Planting Wisdoms, you can get them here:</p>
<p><a target="_blank" href="http://www.desertfather.com/Church%20Planting%20Wisdom.pdf">Church Planting Wisdom (PDF)</a></p>
<p><a target="_blank" href="http://www.desertfather.com/Church%20Planting%20Wisdom.doc">Church Planting Wisdom (DOC)</a></p>
<p><strong>Feel free to pass it around and link here, but please don&#8217;t change the responses of the contributors.</strong> Thank you!</p>
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		<title>Church Planting Wisdom &#8211; From Monday Night Football</title>
		<link>http://www.desertfather.com/2006/12/19/church-planting-wisdom-from-monday-night-football/</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Dec 2006 05:15:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Watching the Cincinnati Bengals play the Indianapolis Colts tonight on Monday Night Football, I realized something I had &#8216;known&#8217; but not yet grasped. The Bengals had tons of offensive talent: Carson Palmer, Chad Johnson, T.J. Whosyourmamma, Chris Henry, Rudi Johnson. Their defense had been playing well. Indianapolis&#8217; defense had been playing pathetic, and even at [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Watching the Cincinnati Bengals play the Indianapolis Colts tonight on Monday Night Football, I realized something I had &#8216;known&#8217; but not yet grasped. The Bengals had tons of offensive talent: Carson Palmer, Chad Johnson, T.J. Whosyourmamma, Chris Henry, Rudi Johnson. Their defense had been playing well. Indianapolis&#8217; defense had been playing pathetic, and even at the top of their game, is mediocre at best. So what happened? <strong>The Bengals couldn&#8217;t get a win because of their lack of effort and attitude.</strong> So how in the world does this translate to ministry?</p>
<p>God has placed people in our paths as ministers, and He has given us each great talent and giftings. <strong>But if we refuse to do anything with them, or approach the task at hand (the Great Commission) with a lack of effort, the Enemy will do nothing but run up the score on us.</strong></p>
<p><strong>Monday night&#8217;s game was a modern day Parable of the Talents:</strong> the Bengals refused to risk it and approach the task with zeal, and they ended up with an &#8220;L&#8221;. Will you?</p>
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		<title>Church Planting Wisdom: Kevin Cawley Redux</title>
		<link>http://www.desertfather.com/2006/11/29/church-planting-wisdom-kevin-cawley-redux/</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Nov 2006 22:44:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Church Planting Wisdom blog series is officially over, but gathering wisdom never will be. Kevin offers some more that is pertinent not only to church planting, but to being a Christian period. You can read it here: Church Planting Wisdom.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Church Planting Wisdom blog series is officially over, but gathering wisdom never will be. Kevin offers some more that is pertinent not only to church planting, but to being a Christian period. You can read it here: <a target="_blank" href="http://cawley.typepad.com/blog/2006/11/church_planting.html">Church Planting Wisdom</a>.</p>
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