Comments on: Making History in the Triangle http://www.desertfather.com/2007/09/22/making-history-in-the-triangle/ for the glory of God and the good of Greenville Mon, 18 Jan 2010 12:32:44 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Troy http://www.desertfather.com/2007/09/22/making-history-in-the-triangle/comment-page-1/#comment-9656 Troy Sun, 11 Nov 2007 21:47:40 +0000 http://www.desertfather.com/2007/09/22/making-history-in-the-triangle/#comment-9656 well, all i hear going on here is a bunch of people stating that certain people are corrupting the Gospel's but know one has given an example of a statement made or believed by these individuals. bring some proof and don't just jump on the band wagon.."...Love is the greatest of these......do all things in love....God can use all things for the glory...." do i need to go on? When will the jealousy and bashing stop? It's no wonder that people turn to beliefs like Hindu or buddism or islam because all they see and here is believers rippingg into each other. I was always taught (1 cor 5:12) to confront privately with truth then if they don't change confront with another believer then if they don't take them before the church. Am i wrong on this? I am really tired of the bashing......I read somewhere :) that love wins. Troy well, all i hear going on here is a bunch of people stating that certain people are corrupting the Gospel’s but know one has given an example of a statement made or believed by these individuals. bring some proof and don’t just jump on the band wagon..”…Love is the greatest of these……do all things in love….God can use all things for the glory….” do i need to go on? When will the jealousy and bashing stop? It’s no wonder that people turn to beliefs like Hindu or buddism or islam because all they see and here is believers rippingg into each other. I was always taught (1 cor 5:12) to confront privately with truth then if they don’t change confront with another believer then if they don’t take them before the church. Am i wrong on this? I am really tired of the bashing……I read somewhere :) that love wins.

Troy

]]> By: Tim http://www.desertfather.com/2007/09/22/making-history-in-the-triangle/comment-page-1/#comment-8804 Tim Sun, 14 Oct 2007 02:33:35 +0000 http://www.desertfather.com/2007/09/22/making-history-in-the-triangle/#comment-8804 Peter, If you haven't found it already, you can find a podcast of Mark's talk here: http://www.sebts.edu/Convergent/GeneralInfo/ Peter,

If you haven’t found it already, you can find a podcast of Mark’s talk here:

http://www.sebts.edu/Convergent/GeneralInfo/

]]> By: Roxann http://www.desertfather.com/2007/09/22/making-history-in-the-triangle/comment-page-1/#comment-8782 Roxann Sat, 13 Oct 2007 04:15:37 +0000 http://www.desertfather.com/2007/09/22/making-history-in-the-triangle/#comment-8782 First, to confront one's brother, one must be a brother....HERETIC.....there is nothing wrong with the "doctrine" of LTA (computer talk) LEAVE THEM ALONE 1 Timothy 4:1&2 ; 6:21 First, to confront one’s brother, one must be a brother….HERETIC…..there is nothing wrong with the “doctrine” of LTA (computer talk) LEAVE THEM ALONE 1 Timothy 4:1&2 ; 6:21

]]> By: Zak http://www.desertfather.com/2007/09/22/making-history-in-the-triangle/comment-page-1/#comment-8622 Zak Thu, 04 Oct 2007 23:47:52 +0000 http://www.desertfather.com/2007/09/22/making-history-in-the-triangle/#comment-8622 If I remember right the verse is "if your brother sins against you". The triad's statements are very public so I believe a public statement is warranted even required. If the Church is to learn from error a private rebuke does no good. Paul stood up in front of the assembly to rebuke Peter, there is no record of a private meeting. Peter's behavior was public for all to see so the rebuke had to be public to keep others from the same mistake. If I remember right the verse is “if your brother sins against you”. The triad’s statements are very public so I believe a public statement is warranted even required. If the Church is to learn from error a private rebuke does no good. Paul stood up in front of the assembly to rebuke Peter, there is no record of a private meeting. Peter’s behavior was public for all to see so the rebuke had to be public to keep others from the same mistake.

]]> By: Peter Uzzi http://www.desertfather.com/2007/09/22/making-history-in-the-triangle/comment-page-1/#comment-8598 Peter Uzzi Wed, 03 Oct 2007 15:20:13 +0000 http://www.desertfather.com/2007/09/22/making-history-in-the-triangle/#comment-8598 @Jared I think you're right about how Mark should confront Bell, under ideal circumstances that is. But let's think practically (and this is more of a question than a statement). Is it necessary for Mark to confront Bell personally for men in their position as leaders in the church who have very public ministries? I mean, both Driscoll and Bell have made their ideas, opinions and theology public by publishing books and speaking publicly. Are they not making themselves open to criticism? They are leaders who will be judged by a higher standard. If it's not convenient for them to meet personally given their schedules (an assumption), are they barred from speaking out against one another's theology? Isn't the propagation of the Truth and the protection of the church and sound doctrine a superior directive? I still hold to Mathew 18. However, I would encourage you to consider that Paul himself often indirectly rebuked heretics by name in his letters to the churches. Was this gossip? No. So, why would he do this? Was he wrong to do this? @Jared

I think you’re right about how Mark should confront Bell, under ideal circumstances that is. But let’s think practically (and this is more of a question than a statement). Is it necessary for Mark to confront Bell personally for men in their position as leaders in the church who have very public ministries? I mean, both Driscoll and Bell have made their ideas, opinions and theology public by publishing books and speaking publicly. Are they not making themselves open to criticism? They are leaders who will be judged by a higher standard. If it’s not convenient for them to meet personally given their schedules (an assumption), are they barred from speaking out against one another’s theology? Isn’t the propagation of the Truth and the protection of the church and sound doctrine a superior directive? I still hold to Mathew 18. However, I would encourage you to consider that Paul himself often indirectly rebuked heretics by name in his letters to the churches. Was this gossip? No. So, why would he do this? Was he wrong to do this?

]]> By: Jared http://www.desertfather.com/2007/09/22/making-history-in-the-triangle/comment-page-1/#comment-8580 Jared Tue, 02 Oct 2007 23:13:49 +0000 http://www.desertfather.com/2007/09/22/making-history-in-the-triangle/#comment-8580 why not teach the truth and not respond to other's teachngs? Mark should confront Rob, because that would be the theologcally correct way to approach a fellow belever... why not teach the truth and not respond to other’s teachngs? Mark should confront Rob, because that would be the theologcally correct way to approach a fellow belever…

]]> By: From the Ashes » Blog Archive » Mark Driscoll to Rob Bell and Doug Pagitt: You’re heretics, too http://www.desertfather.com/2007/09/22/making-history-in-the-triangle/comment-page-1/#comment-8462 From the Ashes » Blog Archive » Mark Driscoll to Rob Bell and Doug Pagitt: You’re heretics, too Thu, 27 Sep 2007 17:26:16 +0000 http://www.desertfather.com/2007/09/22/making-history-in-the-triangle/#comment-8462 [...] Preacher, Desert Father, Travis Johnson, Jonathan Herron and Bob Hyatt have more background on the McLaren portion of [...] [...] Preacher, Desert Father, Travis Johnson, Jonathan Herron and Bob Hyatt have more background on the McLaren portion of [...]

]]> By: Derek http://www.desertfather.com/2007/09/22/making-history-in-the-triangle/comment-page-1/#comment-8445 Derek Thu, 27 Sep 2007 01:40:13 +0000 http://www.desertfather.com/2007/09/22/making-history-in-the-triangle/#comment-8445 I personally believe Erwin McManus to be doctrinally sound, as far as I've heard, anyway. I've had the opportunity to hear him speak on two occasions, both of which were Gospel-centered and prima Scriptura, with respect to Christ. The only thing about McManus is that his methods are "out there", but so is his city. A sound message with relevant methods = a good minister. This is why I think Driscoll didn't call him out. Jon Burke is the same way. I personally believe Erwin McManus to be doctrinally sound, as far as I’ve heard, anyway. I’ve had the opportunity to hear him speak on two occasions, both of which were Gospel-centered and prima Scriptura, with respect to Christ. The only thing about McManus is that his methods are “out there”, but so is his city. A sound message with relevant methods = a good minister. This is why I think Driscoll didn’t call him out. Jon Burke is the same way.

]]> By: Matt http://www.desertfather.com/2007/09/22/making-history-in-the-triangle/comment-page-1/#comment-8441 Matt Thu, 27 Sep 2007 00:04:29 +0000 http://www.desertfather.com/2007/09/22/making-history-in-the-triangle/#comment-8441 I wonder why Driscoll didn't call out Erwin McManus? Could it be because of McManus and his status as SBC's poster boy? I wonder why Driscoll didn’t call out Erwin McManus? Could it be because of McManus and his status as SBC’s poster boy?

]]> By: DT http://www.desertfather.com/2007/09/22/making-history-in-the-triangle/comment-page-1/#comment-8383 DT Tue, 25 Sep 2007 15:48:51 +0000 http://www.desertfather.com/2007/09/22/making-history-in-the-triangle/#comment-8383 I appreciate your post. It is good that Mark has decided to distance himself from these guys. Bell's theology has made many uncomfortable for a while. I appreciate your post. It is good that Mark has decided to distance himself from these guys. Bell’s theology has made many uncomfortable for a while.

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