Comments on: America’s Most Innovative Churches http://www.desertfather.com/2006/12/22/americas-most-innovative-churches/ for the glory of God and the good of Greenville Mon, 18 Jan 2010 12:32:44 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Jim Miller http://www.desertfather.com/2006/12/22/americas-most-innovative-churches/comment-page-1/#comment-2754 Jim Miller Fri, 09 Mar 2007 20:37:13 +0000 http://desertfather.com/2006/12/22/americas-most-innovative-churches/#comment-2754 I have to disagree with Jonathan's "shady" comment. Where do you get a panel qualified to rank innovative churches without going to innovative churches? If the adjudicators DIDN'T include pastors of such churches, someone would be crying foul on that basis. Frankly, I hope each of these pastors listed their own church first. Otherwise, they have no business on the panel. I wonder why we need to take issue with these lists. Why don't we take issue with churches that AREN'T reaching people for Christ or growing good disciples. Better yet, why don't we focus our energies on doing these things ourselves? As far as the most innovative churches being the ones we never hear about, there is a degree of truth to this, but it's a slippery slope. How effective is their innovation if they aren't doing anything new enough to attract at least SOMEONE's attention? I have to disagree with Jonathan’s “shady” comment. Where do you get a panel qualified to rank innovative churches without going to innovative churches? If the adjudicators DIDN’T include pastors of such churches, someone would be crying foul on that basis. Frankly, I hope each of these pastors listed their own church first. Otherwise, they have no business on the panel.

I wonder why we need to take issue with these lists. Why don’t we take issue with churches that AREN’T reaching people for Christ or growing good disciples. Better yet, why don’t we focus our energies on doing these things ourselves?

As far as the most innovative churches being the ones we never hear about, there is a degree of truth to this, but it’s a slippery slope. How effective is their innovation if they aren’t doing anything new enough to attract at least SOMEONE’s attention?

]]> By: Jonathan http://www.desertfather.com/2006/12/22/americas-most-innovative-churches/comment-page-1/#comment-669 Jonathan Fri, 22 Dec 2006 14:51:33 +0000 http://desertfather.com/2006/12/22/americas-most-innovative-churches/#comment-669 I agree - not being sour grapes our anything having served at one such church (NewSpring), but it seems shady to me that the list creator's church came in at #2 and many of the top 10 are pastored by the ajudicators. Also striking that the super-majority are boomer-seeker-style in methodology. Not a good representation. I agree – not being sour grapes our anything having served at one such church (NewSpring), but it seems shady to me that the list creator’s church came in at #2 and many of the top 10 are pastored by the ajudicators.

Also striking that the super-majority are boomer-seeker-style in methodology. Not a good representation.

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